Happy 4th of July

By SEDER

Fireworks, BBQ, no work, enjoy the fourth of July folks! Drive safely and enjoy the Holiday. 

Please keep in mind those people we have sent across the world and are serving because of their vow to protect the Constitution.

For me, I hope our Senators will protect that same Constitution upon their return on tuesday.
In the meantime, here's a refresher.

I suggest the Senators pay particular attention to the 4th amendment.

What does July 4th mean to you?

Comments

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Hey, dipshit...

The Declaration of Independence was signed on Independence Day, not the Constitution. Hence INDEPENDENCE DAY!

Of course, someone with your intellect and schooling would think that Columbus discovered Ohio!

Um, you're the only one who

Um, you're the only one who said that.
No one here, left or right, said the Constitution was signed on Independence day. Do you have a reading comprehension problem? Or is it that you're so psyched to argue that you will create an argument out of nothing?

"Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired signifies in the final sense, a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, those who are cold and are not clothed." Dwight Eisenhower

This Nugget Of Wisdom Comes From...

... our very own "Pfek-liar", the moron that STILL believes Obama is a Muslim!

Yeah, right Pfek-liar, like anyone is taking YOU seriously! HA!

Go argue with your juvenile parole officer and leave the adults alone.

Of course, someone with your intellect and schooling would show the complete lack of reading comprehension that you just did. So, just why did you squander that free public education you were offered?

THANK YOU AMERICA FOR MY FREEDOM

The Declaration: Timeless and of its time
posted at 9:49 am on July 4, 2008 by Ed Morrissey
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The Declaration of Independence has stood throughout time as a beacon of principles for self-government, sounding themes that would shake empires to their foundations and inspiring the oppressed to action. Its authors declared that free men had not just a right but a duty to end tyranny and to act to preserve the unalienable rights of all people as granted by their Creator. This became a template for all future acts of independence, rebellion, and revolution.

However, at the same time, the entire Declaration is an explicitly political document. The authors of the Declaration wanted to express high-minded ideals, but at the same time win popular support for them. Consider, for instance, the argument that is made in its second paragraph:

Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.

The common question for revolution is when does it stop? And what should be the threshold for its inception? The Continental Congress intended on establishing its own form of government, one that could just as easily foment its own rebellion — and perhaps easier once the precedent had been set, as the Civil War would later prove. Understanding this argument, the Declaration attempted to head it off by proclaiming the current situation as so untenable as to be singular in its existence.

The long list of offenses committed by King George III, painted in rather extreme rhetoric, intended on building political support for that notion. In fact, this takes up the largest part of the Declaration, consisting of more than 30 paragraphs of what would have been a brief document otherwise. These indictments were intended to bolster domestic support for independence, which at the time did not enjoy widespread popularity. It had taken months to get the Continental Congress to unanimously agree on that course of action, and these were the activists of the Colonies.

The Declaration also attempted, in a fashion, to appeal to British sensibilities. While the document casts King George III as an arch-villain, it takes a much softer tone in regards to the people of Great Britain:

Nor have We been wanting in attentions to our British brethren. We have warned them from time to time of attempts by their legislature to extend an unwarrantable jurisdiction over us. We have reminded them of the circumstances of our emigration and settlement here. We have appealed to their native justice and magnanimity, and we have conjured them by the ties of our common kindred to disavow these usurpations, which would inevitably interrupt our connections and correspondence. They too have been deaf to the voice of justice and of consanguinity. We must, therefore, acquiesce in the necessity, which denounces our Separation, and hold them, as we hold the rest of mankind, Enemies in War, in Peace Friends.

The underlying message here has echoes to today. The Continental Congress wanted the British to know that they didn’t want to declare war against the people of Great Britain, but just against its monarchy. It’s an attempt to separate the Realm from the Crown to the extent possible, to make war against Britain’s American cousins unpopular and force a quick acquiescence to independence. It didn’t work, but it set a precedent for American views on war between the US and its enemies.

The brilliance of the Declaration can be found in both its timelessness and its contemporaneous context. The former shows the eternal truths into which it taps, and the latter demonstrates the wisdom and pragmatism of its authors.

Blowback

Spam, eggs, bacon and spam!

If all else fails, immortality can always be assured by spectacular error. ~~~John Kenneth Galbraith

Please re read what I wrote

or perhaps find someone with better reading skills so they may help you. I am fully aware that the Fourth commemorates our Independence as a nation.

I understand it may be a difficult concept for you to grasp, but I associate celebrating the birth of our nation with the central document which is meant to organize our nation.

Some people reference our flag, or fireworks or bbq's on the fourth. I would advise you not to assume that any of these things were created on the fourth of july.

And I suggest you also read the 4th amendment, seder

It says what it says, not what you want it to say. Note the words , against unreasonable searches, probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation. You fellow socialists seem to want to misread this part of the constitution to protect those who are activily working to destroy this country.

By leftysrsick July 3, 2008 - 5:08pm

Everyone say hello to hatemoron;

Hi Again, Dummy!

By othello July 3, 2008 - 9:26pm

Everyone say hello to hatemoron;

I busted him on it the other day, and he tried to play all innocent. He has too many 'tells' and he has NO IDEA of what they are.

What would motivate a person to continually try to convert others to his world view, even though his arguments are severely flawed and he has extremely weak reading comprehension skills?

[**however....it is amusing!]

By roadgoddess July 4, 2008 - 12:43am

"What would motivate a person to continually try to convert others to his world view, even though his arguments are severely flawed and he has extremely weak reading comprehension skills"?

There is a simple answer to that; Hatemoron is just an asshole.

that ol hateydid back again?

Its lucky it has the protection of AAR's privacy policy to cower behind. Something bush wouldn't give.
It's IP address, and I'd have it's chicken neck.

By othello July 4, 2008 - 1:03am

Hatemoron is just an asshole.

LMAO!

(***you forgot to add "ignorant"!***)

Hey Hatey

The Constitution is NOT an a la carte menu. You get it all, or you leave it all behind.

Why do you and the other RepubliCANT sheeple-trolls want to see the Constitution destroyed, anyway?

If all else fails, immortality can always be assured by spectacular error. ~~~John Kenneth Galbraith

And you two losers miss the point.... again.

Take a day off and have some fun, for Christ's sake.
On second thought, maybe you two should give the palms of your hands a break.

Only traitors would ignore leaders that go against

the constitution. That should be ingrained in everyone's mind the constitution is the very basis for our freedom.

All these numbskulls that dismiss what Bush has done are just clueless. Or perhaps paid to simply dispense garbage. They say that these "changes" only affect the "evil doers". Well the changes will keep occurring. A little here and a little there. Never going to far to be too shocking. And someday you might see citizens snatched up and declared terrorists. They may or may not be. They might possibly be dangerous enemies of political leaders.

And the majority of people will say "Oh they're terrorists? Say no more." And we'll never know because terrorists don't have rights to an attorney or fair trial right?

And you know the wire tapping business. The amount of data stored is too much to analyze. You know the next step right? Local law enforcement will analyze the "chatter" in their districts. And suddenly political cops are on the street looking to find a reason to give a ticket to citizen A because....

I tell you these dumb asses that do not see the danger are simply partisan. I guarantee you democrats will abuse the ever increasing powers of the government just as much as the republicans. I know the truth.

Bush has defended America against

the Islamo-facist that would destroy the very freedom you abuse. Your not brave, dude, your a childish mal-adjusted wimp, who plants his fat ass in front of a computer screen every day, and whines and cries about how his freedom is being taken from him, while all the time, exercising those very freedoms.

F-ing NAZI !- you and all

F-ing NAZI !- you and all the fear-mongering neocons that vomit this nonsense. What the H is a Islamo-facist? I fear more the destruction of the Constitution than the terrorists you love to thrust down our throats.

How are these " Islamo- fascists" going to do this, Sick?

They gonna pile into their canoes and row to LA from Afghanistan? Slip right past the Navy and Air Force and invade Seattle? March all the way to Washington D.C., while the U.S. military and citizenry stand idley by?
You neocons need to be locked in a rubber room. You are delusional and dangerous to our nation.

It is a shame that so many

It is a shame that so many people are so willing to give up our hard won rights in order to "feel" safer.

George Bush has been using the fear of terrorism to systematically eliminate our 1st amendment rights of free speech, freedom of conscious (have you noticed that being a Muslim is now the same as being a terrorist) and the right to peaceably assemble (now we have "free speech zones"); our 4th amendment rights to be secure in our persons persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures (since in Bush world we are all potential terrorists), our 5th amendment rights to trial and to due process, our 6th & 7th amendment rights to speedy trial by jury with aid and assistance of counsel and the right to confront witnesses against us (remember in Bush world telling the accused what he is accused of and who is accusing him will impede the fight against terror) and out 8th amendment right against cruel and unusual punishment (in Bush world nothing is too cruel in the fight against terror).

On this Independence day holiday, I hope we will remember what our forefathers achieved and why they fought to secure our traditional liberties against the tyranny of the British King George. I hope we will agree that it is worth retaining those liberties even when our own King George tells us we don't need and can't afford them anymore.

By RocketjsquirellJuly 3, 2008 - 5:36pm

People have to understand that to live in a democracy requires bravery because it is an open society and we must accept some risks if we want to live free. If people want guaranteed protection then they have to give of freedom. This is suppose to be the land of the free and home of the brave.

Obama to refine Iraq plan

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0708/11517.html

Obama IS a liar.

Obama will make Slick Clinton look like George [I cannot tell a lie] Washington

Anyone want to get in early

on the presale of my Obama tee-shirts?

“Obama lied and troops that he promised to bring home died. “

“ Impeach and imprison Obama NOW !!! “

Please specify size and color.

YellowBelly Lib Yellow is expected to be the big fav.

shame..

..everybody else in your third grade class got real summer jobs.

By its_so_overJuly 3, 2008 - 5:44pm

FACTME

Snap out of it. Come back to us and not a word will be said.

By f u bush2 July 3, 2008 - 6:01pm

Hey, I think you were right! This clown has Factme written all over him.

Othello

I think the name gives it away. "Its so over". We kept razzing him by saying "it's over", because it clearly was. And you notice the shots he takes are all against Obama specifically.

New and Not Improved

New and Not Improved

Senator Barack Obama stirred his legions of supporters, and raised our hopes, promising to change the old order of things. He spoke with passion about breaking out of the partisan mold of bickering and catering to special pleaders, promised to end President Bush’s abuses of power and subverting of the Constitution and disowned the big-money power brokers who have corrupted Washington politics.
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Now there seems to be a new Barack Obama on the hustings. First, he broke his promise to try to keep both major parties within public-financing limits for the general election. His team explained that, saying he had a grass-roots-based model and that while he was forgoing public money, he also was eschewing gold-plated fund-raisers. These days he’s on a high-roller hunt.

Even his own chief money collector, Penny Pritzker, suggests that the magic of $20 donations from the Web was less a matter of principle than of scheduling. “We have not been able to have much of the senator’s time during the primaries, so we have had to rely more on the Internet,” she explained as she and her team busily scheduled more than a dozen big-ticket events over the next few weeks at which the target price for quality time with the candidate is more than $30,000 per person.

The new Barack Obama has abandoned his vow to filibuster an electronic wiretapping bill if it includes an immunity clause for telecommunications companies that amounts to a sanctioned cover-up of Mr. Bush’s unlawful eavesdropping after 9/11.

In January, when he was battling for Super Tuesday votes, Mr. Obama said that the 1978 law requiring warrants for wiretapping, and the special court it created, worked. “We can trace, track down and take out terrorists while ensuring that our actions are subject to vigorous oversight and do not undermine the very laws and freedom that we are fighting to defend,” he declared.

Now, he supports the immunity clause as part of what he calls a compromise but actually is a classic, cynical Washington deal that erodes the power of the special court, virtually eliminates “vigorous oversight” and allows more warrantless eavesdropping than ever.

The Barack Obama of the primary season used to brag that he would stand before interest groups and tell them tough truths. The new Mr. Obama tells evangelical Christians that he wants to expand President Bush’s policy of funneling public money for social spending to religious-based organizations — a policy that violates the separation of church and state and turns a government function into a charitable donation.

He says he would not allow those groups to discriminate in employment, as Mr. Bush did, which is nice. But the Constitution exists to protect democracy, no matter who is president and how good his intentions may be.

On top of these perplexing shifts in position, we find ourselves disagreeing powerfully with Mr. Obama on two other issues: the death penalty and gun control.

Mr. Obama endorsed the Supreme Court’s decision to overturn the District of Columbia’s gun-control law. We knew he ascribed to the anti-gun-control groups’ misreading of the Constitution as implying an individual right to bear arms. But it was distressing to see him declare that the court provided a guide to “reasonable regulations enacted by local communities to keep their streets safe.”

What could be more reasonable than a city restricting handguns, or requiring that firearms be stored in ways that do not present a mortal threat to children?

We were equally distressed by Mr. Obama’s criticism of the Supreme Court’s barring the death penalty for crimes that do not involve murder.

We are not shocked when a candidate moves to the center for the general election. But Mr. Obama’s shifts are striking because he was the candidate who proposed to change the face of politics, the man of passionate convictions who did not play old political games.

There are still vital differences between Mr. Obama and Senator John McCain on issues like the war in Iraq, taxes, health care and Supreme Court nominations. We don’t want any “redefining” on these big questions. This country needs change it can believe in.
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Baked beans are off!

If all else fails, immortality can always be assured by spectacular error. ~~~John Kenneth Galbraith

Same to yo mama!

Yo mama's so low she can walk under a snake without bending over!

You don't have to burn books to destroy a culture. Just get people to stop reading them.
---Ray Bradbury

By LiberalIconoclastJuly 4, 2008 - 9:42pm

But she always bends over, just like him. It's a force of habit thing for them.

George W. & George H.W. Bush - Living proof that the dumbshit doesn't fall far from the dumbass.

Another blow from Bush's economy.,,

Study: First-quarter donations down for charities
By Queenie Wong | McClatchy Newspapers
Posted on Thu, July 3, 2008

ASHINGTON — Charitable giving declined in the first quarter of this year, according to a bellwether study by a consulting firm for nonprofit agencies.

It's the first decline since 2005, when charities collected record donations after the Indian Ocean tsunami and U.S. Gulf Coast hurricanes. It came as no surprise; charitable contributions generally track economic conditions.
Donor numbers fell by 4 percent and revenue by 1.8 percent compared with the first quarter of last year, according to the study by Target Analytics, a company based in Cambridge, Mass.

...

Send the sergeant at arms - that will make the news

Conyers threatens contempt charges for Rove
By Jared Allen
Posted: 07/03/08 03:21 PM [ET]

The standoff between the House and the Bush administration over the congressional testimony of top White House aides continued on Thursday when House Judiciary Committee Chairman John Conyers Jr. (D-Mich.) threatened to hold Karl Rove in contempt if he follows through on his refusal to respond to a committee subpoena.

Conyers and Administrative Law subcommittee Chairwoman Linda Sanchez (D-Calif.) were responding to a July 1 letter they received from Rove’s attorney, Robert D. Luskin, in which Luskin said his client would be unable to appear before Sanchez’s subcommittee. The panel is investigating the politicization within the Justice Department and had subpoenaed Rove to testify before the subcommittee next Thursday.

In his letter, Luskin said Rove would not appear “on the grounds that Executive Privilege confers upon him immunity from process in response to a subpoena directed to this subject.”
In a letter released Thursday, Conyers and Sanchez rejected that claim, and warned that they could move to hold Rove in contempt of Congress if he fails to respond to the subpoena.

...

July 4th Eve

State Dept. Audit Finds Snooping Was Frequent

Celebrity Passport Records Popular
State Dept. Audit Finds Snooping Was Frequent
By Glenn Kessler
Washington Post Staff Writer
Friday, July 4, 2008; Page A01

Government workers repeatedly snooped without authorization inside the electronic passport records of entertainers, athletes and other high-profile Americans, a State Department audit has found. One celebrity's records were breached 356 times by more than six dozen people.

The audit, by State's inspector general, was prompted by the discovery in March that three of the department's contract workers had peeked at the private passport files of Sens. Barack Obama and John McCain and that a State Department trainee had examined the file of Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton.

The report documented a widespread lack of controls on the personal data of the 127 million Americans who hold passports, finding numerous "weaknesses, including a general lack of policies, procedures, guidance and training." The State Department had maintained that its system worked when the candidates' passport breaches were discovered.

...

The 4th amendment

I am reading from my pocket copy of the constitution that I carry everywhere-- [the fourth amendment]
"The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized".

What is it about the constitution the republicans don't get?

"effects" would include internet and phone data

"Vas eez das noise over a gull durned piece a paper!" --Adolph W. Nazibush II

Effects as "internets".

Yes, gosh darn, worser than anything else. Like spying on "every thought you take". Was it Sting or Bruce Springsteen

McCain team falling apart

This clown has had all winter to get his team together. Look out, somebody's experience is showing.

Fourth of July

The declaration of independence from Great Britain that occurred 232 years ago
was centered on one simple concept: taxation without representation. Not taxation itself as some of our right-wing friends would tell us. If a king, or for that matter a large group of corporations would in effect have more power than an elected official, then the general population would have less means of deciding their own destiny. Large oil companies for example could direct unscrupulous politicians to
send an army to invade and occupy a country simply to exploit their natural resources. Something to think about on this holiday.

pat mallory

are you the same pat mallory that I know?

bruce mcfarlin

Ding-dong, Jesse Helms is gone.

Happy Birthday, America!

George W. & George H.W. Bush - Living proof that the dumbshit doesn't fall far from the dumbass.

By Guy FawkesJuly 4, 2008 - 11:59am

LOL

Now now

Be nice.
Sincerely,
Auntie Stick-in-the-mud.

"Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired signifies in the final sense, a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, those who are cold and are not clothed." Dwight Eisenhower

By MichtouJuly 4, 2008 - 12:28pm

LMAO!

OK. *hangs head*
Seriously though; the world is a better place without Jesse Helms in it.

George W. & George H.W. Bush - Living proof that the dumbshit doesn't fall far from the dumbass.

The children are up early today.

Such hatred coming from the loonie left.

Look in the mirror, hatey

This from a person who calls himself "leftysrsick" and dubs us loonies? A person who spends all day on this board criticizing and name-calling.
What a hypocrite.

"Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired signifies in the final sense, a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, those who are cold and are not clothed." Dwight Eisenhower

The loonie speaks

The Big Obama Flip Nears, Lunatic Left Starting to Realize it's Been Duped
Hat tip to HotAir

Even Barack Obama is beginning to show signs of flipping on his Iraq War stance, and the loonies on the left aren't liking it very much.

Senator Barack Obama said Thursday the United States cannot sustain a long-term military presence in Iraq, but added that he would be open to “refine my policies” about a timeline for withdrawing troops after meeting with American military commanders during a trip to Iraq later this month.

Mr. Obama, whose popularity in the Democratic primary was built upon a sharp opposition to the war and an often-touted 16-month gradual timetable for removing combat troops, dismissed suggestions that he was changing positions in the wake of reductions in violence in Iraq and a general election fight with Senator John McCain.

“I’ve always said that the pace of withdrawal would be dictated by the safety and security of our troops and the need to maintain stability. That assessment has not changed,” he said. “And when I go to Iraq and have a chance to talk to some of the commanders on the ground, I’m sure I’ll have more information

Obama has long hyped his superior judgment on the war issue, but now he seems near admission that his opposition to the surge was wrong. We know about his judgment on other issues. The long list of recent Obama flips have discouraged many of his supporters, but up til now most have followed along. This one appears to be too much for some. Here are a few of the comments:

Proving once again to me that politicians are all the same.

Republicans are at least smart enough to know you don't pull this shit in the middle of a campaign.

I thought my disgust for politicians could grow no deeper. Obama seems intent on proving me wrong.

Oh dear.

There is absolutely NOTHING reasonable or realistic about prolonging...the illegal war against Iraq. Politically expedient, perhaps. But the day Obama takes office the blood is on HIS hands, and every day he prolongs the bloodbath will be another reason he was the wrong choice for president. Every day will be another nail in the coffin of his legacy.
An "inflexible plan" is exactly what is needed: America must get out of Iraq with all possible speed. Anything else is prolonging war crimes for politics, which only compounds their evil. Obama will inherit this, but he must end it.

I regret that it looks to me like one of those too-common situation where a politician has already made a decision to change a policy regardless of there being no change in circumstances, and is looking for credible new advice to provide a pretext for making the change.
I hope I am wrong on this, but man, I've seen this wretched movie before, over and over and over...

And candidate Obama had damn well better not flip-flop on Iraq. He does this, and say hello to President McSame.

He's going to be painted as a flip-flopper on the CORE ISSUE of his campaign. What. The. Fuck?

Get out the fucking flip-flops. This is going to be a bumpy ride.

If he isn't going to get us out, I would rather see Mcclain win. Then at least it still remains a REPUBLICAN war!

Funny how it takes Obama finally considering a rational plan of action to upset his biggest supporters.

Posted by Scott Martin on July 03, 2008 at 01:55
The Big Obama Flip Nears, Lunatic Left Starting to Realize it's Been Duped
Hat tip to HotAir

Even Barack Obama is beginning to show signs of flipping on his Iraq War stance, and the loonies on the left aren't liking it very much.

Senator Barack Obama said Thursday the United States cannot sustain a long-term military presence in Iraq, but added that he would be open to “refine my policies” about a timeline for withdrawing troops after meeting with American military commanders during a trip to Iraq later this month.

Mr. Obama, whose popularity in the Democratic primary was built upon a sharp opposition to the war and an often-touted 16-month gradual timetable for removing combat troops, dismissed suggestions that he was changing positions in the wake of reductions in violence in Iraq and a general election fight with Senator John McCain.

“I’ve always said that the pace of withdrawal would be dictated by the safety and security of our troops and the need to maintain stability. That assessment has not changed,” he said. “And when I go to Iraq and have a chance to talk to some of the commanders on the ground, I’m sure I’ll have more information

Obama has long hyped his superior judgment on the war issue, but now he seems near admission that his opposition to the surge was wrong. We know about his judgment on other issues. The long list of recent Obama flips have discouraged many of his supporters, but up til now most have followed along. This one appears to be too much for some. Here are a few of the comments:

Proving once again to me that politicians are all the same.

Republicans are at least smart enough to know you don't pull this shit in the middle of a campaign.

I thought my disgust for politicians could grow no deeper. Obama seems intent on proving me wrong.

Oh dear.

There is absolutely NOTHING reasonable or realistic about prolonging...the illegal war against Iraq. Politically expedient, perhaps. But the day Obama takes office the blood is on HIS hands, and every day he prolongs the bloodbath will be another reason he was the wrong choice for president. Every day will be another nail in the coffin of his legacy.
An "inflexible plan" is exactly what is needed: America must get out of Iraq with all possible speed. Anything else is prolonging war crimes for politics, which only compounds their evil. Obama will inherit this, but he must end it.

I regret that it looks to me like one of those too-common situation where a politician has already made a decision to change a policy regardless of there being no change in circumstances, and is looking for credible new advice to provide a pretext for making the change.
I hope I am wrong on this, but man, I've seen this wretched movie before, over and over and over...

And candidate Obama had damn well better not flip-flop on Iraq. He does this, and say hello to President McSame.

He's going to be painted as a flip-flopper on the CORE ISSUE of his campaign. What. The. Fuck?

Get out the fucking flip-flops. This is going to be a bumpy ride.

If he isn't going to get us out, I would rather see Mcclain win. Then at least it still remains a REPUBLICAN war!

Funny how it takes Obama finally considering a rational plan of action to upset his biggest supporters.

Posted by Scott Martin on July 03, 2008 at 01:55

By leftysrsickJuly 4, 2008 - 12:40pm

Here come the hatey cut & paste spam bombs. You will be banned shortly. Don't let the door hit ya on the way out.

George W. & George H.W. Bush - Living proof that the dumbshit doesn't fall far from the dumbass.

I submit that this "hatey" guy must be

fu, because that's about all he does, post "spam bombs".

Accuracy fixxy

"hatey" guy must be righties(R)sick

No need to thank me.

If all else fails, immortality can always be assured by spectacular error. ~~~John Kenneth Galbraith

Hey sockpuppet...

Cut the crap. We all know who you are, you're not fooling anyone.

No, hateyeatsshit Isn't Fooling Anyone...

... he's just a fool.

Don't forget how he and his toadies celebrated

when George Carlin died just over a week ago.
Hypocrites tend to lean to the right, it seems.

By thaelmann37July 4, 2008 - 1:02pm

The entire nation is celebrating the death of Helms this weekend with fireworks.

So how come we never heard about those hostages

in Columbia until the Columbian government released them. Two were US citizens. All this time nothing in the news.

How much do you want to bet that Bush knew nothing about it until the news broke.

By f u bush2 July 4, 2008 - 12:23pm

The timing (to my eyes) is suspect....isn't McCain pushing that Columbian trade deal?

(See what a good friend we have in the Columbian government???)

By roadgoddessJuly 4, 2008 - 12:27pm

I could only hope the republicans try to spin it that they had a hand in the release. The Colombians spent a long time infiltrating FARC and getting this done. If the republicans try to take credit on this in any way they are going to be trounced for lying. The Colombians certainly aren't going to give away the credit they deserve.

By f u bush2 July 4, 2008 - 12:31pm

I'm not so sure that they'd try to take credit for it (though I wouldn't put it past them at all),I DO see them exploiting the event as an argument for passage of the 'trade deal'.

By roadgoddessJuly 4, 2008 - 12:37pm

They'll try to use it anyway thy can I'm sure.

If you ever become a mother, can I have one of the puppies?

Is it true that your a modest little person, with much to be modest about?

It wasn't funny the first time either

...but then, projection is rarely funny. So please stop projecting. You're only embarrassing yourself even more than you usually do just by being a RepubliCANT.

If all else fails, immortality can always be assured by spectacular error. ~~~John Kenneth Galbraith

By leftysrsick July 4, 2008 - 11:50pm

WTF are you on about with puppies? DOG, but you're one SICK sockpuppet!

Just asking if I could have one of your puppies

when you gave birth.

Take it to memory, momma's sockpuppet

Here.'s hoping the Republican brand dog food, that the stores are pulling off their shelves, will suffice you, when the bitch you call your mother finishs weaning you, lefcoshitz.

we were thinking that to

leave it to fox noise, they did bring that subject up. Heres the clip.

http://thinkprogress.org/2008/07/02/mccain-colombia/

By getmad54 July 5, 2008 - 5:56pm

Looks like f u bush2 called this one.I didn't think they'd actually be this brazen. I thought they'd just tweak the story as a "reason" why we should be signing that Columbian Free Trade deal. But then again, Faux Noise has always been pretty shameless when it comes to lying.

Major Bush administration flip-flop at troops expense

Pentagon Extends Tours Of Duty For Marines In Afghanistan
LOLITA C. BALDOR | July 3, 2008 06:15 PM EST

WASHINGTON — The Pentagon has extended the tour of 2,200 Marines in Afghanistan, after insisting for months the unit would come home on time. The 24th Marine Expeditionary Unit, which is doing combat operations in the volatile south, will stay an extra 30 days and come home in early November rather than October, Marine Col. David Lapan confirmed Thursday.

Military leaders as recently as Wednesday stressed the need for additional troops in Afghanistan. Adm. Mike Mullen, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, has often praised the work of the 24th MEU in fighting Taliban militants in Helmand Province.

Defense Secretary Robert Gates, however, has repeatedly said he did not intend to extend or replace the U.S. Marines in Afghanistan, calling their deployment there an extraordinary, one-time effort to help tamp down the increasing violence in the south.

Asked about the possibility of an extension in early May, Gates said he would "be loathe to do that." He added that "no one has suggested even the possibility of extending that rotation."

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They want to keep troops close to Pakistan right now.

No doubt to quell the populace uprising that will come from the predator drone misfires:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/2236652/CIA-g...

Mr Obama looks to have received intelligence briefings on the arrangement with Pakistan. Evidently, McCain has not
(I guess the CIA knows who the President Pro Tem is).

Imagine if you will, a horde of missile-armed drones, remote-controlled by a hastely trained Pakastani militia, unleashed on the mountain populace. Stay tuned.

And they want to box Iran in

And they want to box Iran in from two sides.
"Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired signifies in the final sense, a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, those who are cold and are not clothed." Dwight Eisenhower

Ok the spam bombs are starting

This is how it always works. Ignore hatey. Make posts around him. He can't help himself. He'll spam bomb.

Then e-mail Sam and ask him to be removed AGAIN.

Oh and don't reply to him directly. It drives his response count up and I think he must get something for that.

Crisis grows in Iraq over U.S. raid that killed Maliki relative

Crisis grows in Iraq over U.S. raid that killed Maliki relative
By Hannah Allam | McClatchy Newspapers
Posted on Saturday, June 28, 2008

BAGHDAD, Iraq — Senior Iraqi government officials said Saturday that a U.S. Special Forces counterterrorism unit conducted the raid that reportedly killed a relative of Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al Maliki, touching off a high-stakes diplomatic crisis between the United States and Iraq.

U.S. military officials in Baghdad had no comment for the second day in a row, an unusual position for a command that typically releases information on combat operations within 24 hours.

The raid occurred at dawn Friday in the town of Janaja near Maliki's birthplace in the southern, mostly Shiite Muslim province of Karbala. Ali Abdulhussein Razak al Maliki, who was killed in the raid, was related to the prime minister and had close ties to his personal security detail, according to