Tell me what you see
So all of these news organizations have reporters travelling with Obama, and suddenly the reporters are receiving strange queries from their news editors about an allegedly chaotic "mob scene" at an Obama appearance. Now, you might wonder why these editors are asking about something that none of their reporters who were actually there have reported. Why? Because Matt Drudge said so. You know, if I ran a news organization, I'd let it be known that I take a dim view of journalists using The Drudge Report as their homepage. Alas, most of them really do use Drudge as their homepage. As Atrios says, he's still America's Assignment Editor.
The Talking Dog has an interview with Steven Wax, "author of Kafka Comes to America: Fighting For Justice in the War on Terror, a Federal Defender's Inside Account documenting his work on behalf of Oregon attorney Brandon Mayfield, accused of a connection to the 2004 Madrid bombings, and Adel Hamad, a Sudanese national formerly detained at Guantanamo Bay." Some of his Gitmo clients are a fine example of the Worst of the Worst: "Nazar Gul, was taken into exile in Pakistan by his parents when he was three after he lost an eye to a Soviet bomb. He returned to Afghanistan only after Karzai came to power and got a job working for the Americans. He was arrested on a case of mistaken identity."
Last night Dale Leo Bishop was put to death, even though he didn't kill anyone.
Ron Kuby interviewed Howell Raines the other day, and Raines said what the oil companies are saying about high prices being entirely a result of supply and demand is, well, bollocks. He also talks about how reporters aren't what they used to be, which I think is pretty rich coming from someone who could have decided to hire reporters who are what they used to be if he'd really wanted to - but apparently didn't want to. (via)
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I raise my FRist!
Noting unusual about the Obama coverage. While MSM follows Obama around the world, they also are looking for anything that will shoot him down.
The scary thing is, John Dubya McBush could still be pResident, because American voters are really really stoopid.
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By LiberalIconoclastJuly 24, 2008 - 8:51pmAs Bill Press pointed out this AM
Something like 74% of Americans DISapprove of the direction in which America isd going (i.e., down the tubes)
Yest Obama leads McSame by only 6 points in the polls (usually the outer limit of the margin of error).
American voters aren't just stoopid, they're also bigoted. McSame stands a great chance of being elected, and having the Anchors (there never was a more seserving term...what does an anchor do except keep something from moving?) running around the world with Obama is just the way that the Daddy Warbucks who run the MSM keep their ears to the grindstone in search of that Swift Boat moment that will sink the good seantor.
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By blogbobJuly 24, 2008 - 9:57pmI actually think Obama needs to court those voters more.
One reason Hillary did so much better in the Appalachians is that she went there and asked people for their votes.
Also, Obama has a bad habit of going to groups and lecturing them about things that are irrelevant to a president's job instead of talking about whether he recognizes the problems the present administration and previous administrations have created for our country and what he plans to do about it.
I'm sure there are plenty of people who won't vote for Obama just because he's black, or has a funny name, or Bill O'Reilly told them he's a Muslim, but I also don't think it's an accident that so many of the old civil rights people and members of the Black Caucus supported Hillary rather than Obama in the primary. I don't think bigotry accounts for that.
Obama's style can be off-putting for a lot of people. I realize it can be inspiring to others, but I'm getting the sense that a lot of people are still waiting to hear less about hope and more about programs that will actually give them hope.
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By AvedonJuly 25, 2008 - 11:14amBy AvedonJuly 25, 2008 - 11:14am
On the issue of the Appalachian states, the only democrat to win Kentucky in a long time has been Clinton. But without Perot that would not have happened.
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By f u bush2July 25, 2008 - 11:37amObama Out-Raises McCain in Arizona
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By f u bush2July 24, 2008 - 9:47pmAnd yet
Obama leads by only 6% in the polls.
Dukakis was up by a substantial margin around this time in 1988.
McSame can still win this thing.
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By blogbobJuly 24, 2008 - 10:00pmGrandpa will win this unfortunately
Obama will lose OH, MI, PA and FL just like I said due to racism. Obama should be up to 20% ahead. He is not. Hillary would be. Hillary 2012 is our last best chance.
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By hufflarry2000July 24, 2008 - 10:12pmBy hufflarry2000July 24, 2008 - 10:12pm
I disagree. I think McCain is going to claim health issues and drop out.
When the debates happen this is going to get out of hand.
Hillary would not be ahead. Many of us wouldn't vote for her.
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By f u bush2July 24, 2008 - 10:15pmI know you would not vote for her
we would not need you. She would be so far ahead of McCain now we would not need you. Bye, Bye, OH, MI , PA and FL. Of course you may win MT and 3 votes. Fucking jackasses! This would have been an easy victory.
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By hufflarry2000July 24, 2008 - 10:24pmBy hufflarry2000July 24, 2008 - 10:24pm
Stop whining because the will of the people was followed.
If Obama loses it will be because of you Clinton followers. So she better not try to run in the future if that happens. She won't get 20% of the vote.
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By f u bush2July 24, 2008 - 10:29pmObama will lose
due to the racism in the big states like OH, MI, FL, and PA. Just like I told you. Hillary would have won all those states easily. But you dont care.I wonder who won all the big states in the primaries? Too late now.
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By hufflarry2000July 24, 2008 - 10:38pmYou're the reason they call us Defeatocrats
Listen Huff, the Democratic primaries are not a good representation of the rest of the voting population in this country. Obama will win OH, MI, FL, and PA, unless people like you choose not to vote and ruin it for the rest of us. Even if you have to chalk it up to voting for the lesser of two evils (which most of the McCain followers are doing for him), at least realize that this country cannot afford the same failed policy that got us into this mess to begin with.
So what if your candidate didn't win the primary? We need to move forward. Stop whining and help us bash McCain. Where is Billary now? Why aren't they on the offensive against McCain?
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By McCain Equals BushJuly 25, 2008 - 2:36amThe DLC stillwants Crash to win it
That way, Hillary can run (and lose) in 2012. I think the Dems who support Shitpants are a very small minority, but they can still do a lot of damage.
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By LiberalIconoclastJuly 25, 2008 - 2:48amBy LiberalIconoclast July 25, 2008 - 2:48am
huflarry is a member of PUMA. No matter what Hillary said in Unity, NH, she is still working to get the nomination, and she has lots of supporters. That's why we aren't hearing any support of Sen. Obama from the Clintons.
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By roadgoddessJuly 25, 2008 - 5:08amI support senator Obama
but I also supprt president and senator Clinton.
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By hufflarry2000July 25, 2008 - 5:25amYou got it backwards again
It's Senator Clinton and President Obama.
She lost. It's over. Deal with it.
If all else fails, immortality can always be assured by spectacular error. ~~~John Kenneth Galbraith
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By nonexistent manJuly 25, 2008 - 5:32amEven Obama knows he
will lose. He is just practcing.
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By hufflarry2000July 25, 2008 - 5:35amStill stuck in that g0p wet dream, huh?
Billary's DONE. She LOST. Being a crybaby hurt her just as much as it's hurting you; probably more so, because people actually paid attention to her.
Start practicing: PRESIDENT OBAMA.
If all else fails, immortality can always be assured by spectacular error. ~~~John Kenneth Galbraith
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By nonexistent manJuly 25, 2008 - 5:37amNo need
Hillary2012
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By hufflarry2000July 25, 2008 - 5:41amGo get some coffee and wake up.
BillaryNever.
If all else fails, immortality can always be assured by spectacular error. ~~~John Kenneth Galbraith
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By nonexistent manJuly 25, 2008 - 5:44amBy hufflarry2000July 25, 2008 - 5:41am
I really hope the Hillary 2012 movement takes off so that everyone sees how her supporters are sabotaging the election. The more successful it is the harder it is for them to hide what they are doing.
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By f u bush2July 25, 2008 - 5:51amI did not know you lived in Ohio
thanks for your insight. The racists here would rather live in a refridgerator box and work for $2 an hour than see a black man as president or let the gays get married.
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By hufflarry2000July 25, 2008 - 3:34amSo it's just like I told
So it's just like I told y'all weeks ago. When Osama...er...Obama...er...whatever his name is loses, you losers will cry racism. In your eyes the only way the messiah cannot be elected is because he is half black. Maybe it is because he is the most liberal member of Congress. Or maybe it is because he isn't capable yet. Or maybe it is because his mouth moves but nothing of significance comes out of it. Or maybe it is because he has done nothing in his life that would lead voters to believe that he could lead this country. But more than likely it will be because he is a socialist with anti-American friends and hangs out with convicted terrorists and mobsters. It has absolutely nothing to do with race. If Condi Rice or JC Watts were to run, you would see the same conservatives that you call racist out campaigning and voting for the black candidate. Your playing the race card for every setback and defeat you have in this country is tired and old and people don't want to hear that shit anymore.
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By bebeholmesJuly 25, 2008 - 1:29pmBy bebeholmesJuly 25, 2008 - 1:29pm
Further proof the right has nothing to run on.
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By f u bush2July 25, 2008 - 2:06pmThere is a story
by www.timesonline that Obama was heckled at the Western Wall by one man before Obama "was whisked away to his plane." Was this the mob scene?
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By richaduJuly 24, 2008 - 10:25pmBy richaduJuly 24, 2008 - 10:25pm
Yeah, that non-working link you provided gives the whole "story". Did they pull it because it was bullshit?
You right-wingers sure are scared. Please spare innocent pedestrians the brunt of your impotent frustration. We will not tolerate human hood ornaments adorning your mid-life crisismobiles. We have liberal vigilante bicycle patrols on the prowl for you fuckers.
George W. & George H.W. Bush - Living proof that the dumbshit doesn't fall far from the dumbass.
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By Guy FawkesJuly 25, 2008 - 1:49amCan't you just hear the fear?
All their chest-thumping and yee-hawing. What pitiful little turds of failed humanity they all are. And just wait until November.
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By LiberalIconoclastJuly 25, 2008 - 2:15amBy LiberalIconoclastJuly 25, 2008 - 2:15am
Damn, it looks like this was quite an active blog today. Sorry I missed it. :-)
George W. & George H.W. Bush - Living proof that the dumbshit doesn't fall far from the dumbass.
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By Guy FawkesJuly 25, 2008 - 2:22amRepublicans are running the
Republicans are running the worst candidate for president they have run since Goldwater and your defeatocrat party still can't win. What does that tell you about your failed policies? Americans, for the most part, believe in personal responsibility and don't want a socialist government in power. Pretty soon you non-achievers will understand that you can't steal other people's wealth so you losers can have something. It's time to realize that in order to make it in life you have educate yourselves and develop marketable job skills in order to succeed or learn to live with the phrase" would you like fries with that order, Sir?"
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By bebeholmesJuly 25, 2008 - 1:36pmDoesn't it tell you something about the repub nominating
process that you ended up with the worst candidate of the bunch, one that even your own party can't stand?
Obama is not only going to clean grandpa's clock, he's also going to have an even bigger dem majority in congress. He will pick several new Supreme Court justices, ensuring a liberal majority for decades to come.
Stealing other people's wealth? Yep, that's what repubs have been doing for years, stealing wealth from the lower and middle classes and giving it to the ultrarich. Stealing from the employees and shareholders of Enron to give to Kenny Boy Lay and other Bush cronies. Stealing from every person who buys gas in order to enrich the execs at Exxon Mobil and other big oil companies. Stealing from the taxpayer to hand over to Halliburton and Blackwater and Custer Battles, often for substandard work or work that wasn't done at all. Stealing from the taxpayer to give to defense contractors for weapons systems that are useless against terrorists, such as the F-22. Stealing from future generations by adding over $4 trillion dollars to the national debt in the past 6 years, so that interest payments on the debt are now the 4th largest spending category in the budget.
You have tremendous gall, and even more tremendous ignorance to even dare suggest that dems are going to steal other people's hard-earned money. It is repub policies, brought to a head under the present administration, that represents theft on a historic scale. Anyone who calls themselves a repub and supports their policies should hang their head in shame and beg for forgiveness from the American public. From what I can see, the public isn't in a forgiving mood right now, and November is going to prove that to you and the world. Hope and pray that at least a few of those criminals will be allowed to leave office with their freedom instead of heading for a jail cell. Many, many of them deserve it.
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By UffdaguyJuly 25, 2008 - 1:55pmBy bebeholmesJuly 25, 2008 - 1:36pm
How many threads are you going to post this on?
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By f u bush2July 25, 2008 - 2:07pmWhat Do I See?
I see a rightwingnut still posing as a leftwingnut and still throwing a temper tantrum over the fact that his Operation Chaos plan failed to help McCain's biggest fan and DLCorporatist leader Hillary Clintonevergonnabepresident.
And it's quite a funny sight to see...
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By SJerseyIndyJuly 25, 2008 - 10:17amCould we all give the Hillary-hatin' a rest, please?
Look, the primaries are over. Obama can win the election or lose it, but if he loses, it won't be Hillary's fault, or her supporters. Most of them are voting for Obama anyway.
Obama needs to charm more people. He's got the college kid vote, but he obviously has some more work to do. We'll see if he does it. If he doesn't, it's his fault he lost the election.
Of course, that might not be the only reason - there are always those voting machines and a media that is ultimately hostile to Democrats. They seem split this time, though, so maybe he can still pull it off.
AC
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By AvedonJuly 25, 2008 - 11:46amBy Avedon July 25, 2008 - 11:46am
I'll take this last opportunity to say what I have to say on the subject and then give it a rest. During the primaries the Hillary supporters adopted this talking point that anyone arguing for Obama over Clinton was following an Obama cult. They continued to do so even when many on the other side of the debate had not made Obama their first choice and even expressed some concerns about him. The truth didn't matter. All that mattered was the talking point that Obama was a god to us.
Now they have handed that over to the republicans to use. And I'm sure many of the hard core Hillary supporters are loving it.
But the worst thing that Clinton and her campaign did was to take the issue of Michigan and Florida and make it Obama's problem. The decision made on those states early on in the nomination process can be debated as right or wrong and who is responsible can also be debated. But the fact is that not one of the many candidates at the time had anything to do with that decision. But when the Clinton campaign got desperate they decided to argue that it was Obama that was responsible for disenfranchising voters. They kept hammering away on that talking point.
After the elections of 2000 and 2004 many people are sensitive to this issue. Clinton managed to convince many people in those two states that Obama was taking their vote away when he had nothing to do with it. And I'm sure the damage goes beyond those two states.
It is for this reason that Clinton has absolutely made it more difficult for Obama in the general election. Should Obama lose then I do not see how Clinton can expect us to support her in 2012.
There I'm done and I'll drop the subject.
Now I'll give it a rest as I have for a long, long time now. But our closet republican, hufflarry, decides every week or two that he must post his opinion that Hillary would have won and Obama would not all over the board. So the little spat going on here was not brought on by "Hillary haters".
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By f u bush2July 25, 2008 - 12:40pmI think if you look at the posts on here, you will see that the
"hate" comes from one or two Hillary supporters that are doing their best to make sure McCain wins so they can gloat that Obama cost dems the White House, setting things up so that St. Hillary can ride to our rescue in 2012.
These people are just plain spiteful. I personally don't think this country can survive another 4 years under Bush policies, which is all McCain is pushing. To want McCain to win just so you can spend 4 years gloating over the defeat of a guy that defeated Hillary is worse than childish...it is dangerous for our country, and it would certainly hurt Hillary supporters.
Theoretically, you have to be an adult to vote, but maturity is something that seems to be sadly lacking in some of the most rabid Hillary supporters. They need to grow up, realize that your candidate doesn't always win their contest, and then think about what is best for the country. If they believe in their heart that McCain is the best person to be president, then by all means, vote for him. That is your right, and it is your responsibility. On the other hand, if they vote for McCain simply because they don't want Obama to win, so that Hillary can run again in 2012, please do the country a favor and stay home on November 4. Voting is a RESPONSIBILITY, one that is not to be taken lightly. Voting out of spite is definitely not being responsible.
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By UffdaguyJuly 25, 2008 - 12:49pmBy UffdaguyJuly 25, 2008 - 12:49pm
I agree with you. The Hillary supporters keep starting this up every week or two and they gloat over the prospect of her running in 2012. But I think we need to cut the guest blogger some slack because to those of us that have been around here for a long time we know that sarcasm and over the top responses are the norm. In response to Huff's tantrum many of us decide to egg him on by pushing the anti-Hillary rhetoric and to a casual user of this board it may appear that we are worse.
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By f u bush2July 25, 2008 - 12:58pmI agree Uff.
Especially your point about certain Clinton supporters setting themselves up for the potential thrill of posting " Nyah, nyah, told you so!"
What an empty victory.
Not being a democrat, I try to keep out of such inter- party squabbles. But sometimes it gets so annoying you have to tell some people to shut up.
Guys, please spit your venom on the real enemy.
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By thaelmann37July 25, 2008 - 1:05pmSay Something Good About McCain - You CAN'T
You have nothing substantive to say about McCain, and you never will because everyone knows how much of a political hack he is. He was a "maverick" until he realized he needed all of Bush's fund raisers backing him, so he switched all of his "maverick" (read, bs) positions to right-wing ones so that he could accept the millions upon millions that rich Bush backers want to throw at him. You can't tell me why you'll be voting for this loser, you can only make a feeble attempt to link Barack Obama's name to Osama bin Laden's. You are PATHETIC!! Leave politics to those who know what they're talking about.
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By McCain Equals BushJuly 25, 2008 - 9:31pmMcCain was never a maverick.
That's a media invention.
McCain got busted in the S&L scandal as one of the Keating Five and he had to clean up his act, so he signed on with Feingold's campaign finance reform bill - a meaningless gesture to support something the media liked even though it didn't make elections any cleaner.
McCain gave a lot of impressive lip-service to his opposition to torture until it actually came time to vote, when he was in lock-step with the Republicans. That's no maverick. He's just a right-wing hack.
AC
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By AvedonJuly 25, 2008 - 11:52pmMcCain, a maverick?
Oh, I get it...guided by television, good for only one shot, and remarkably destructive.
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By nonexistent manJuly 26, 2008 - 1:38amBy nonexistent manJuly 26, 2008 - 1:38am
Wasn't Maverick the call sign for Tom Cruise's character in Top Gun? I don't remember Tom Cruise crashing 5 planes in that movie.
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By f u bush2July 26, 2008 - 1:42am