Bush Stays One Step Behind Leak Scandal

Many liberals would label themselves "spiritual but not religious." I would characterize the neocons and chicken hawks as religious but not spiritual. They take their orders from a flat, rigid dogma that tells them what to think. Most spiritual orientations e.g. compassion, generosity, forgiveness, honesty, and yes integrity are actually liberal sentiments that are largely repugnant to neo-cons.

If you look at the massive lie campaigns assembled by Jesus-blessed millionaires like Mellon-Scaife, James Dobson et al you can see in boldface religion operating quite happily in the absence of spirituality

What??? You mean you didn't benefit from Dumbya's swell tax cuts?

And why are you always so pissed JPN?? After all, you're living in Bush's conservative utopia, aren't you?

We're all socialists eh? Well, as always, one should be judged by the company one keeps. So tell me again... why are you always hanging around here?

BTW... better socialists than FASCIST PIGS.

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.....any of our responses, or doesn't remember.

"All this talk about lying and deceiving, it sounds to me like your talking about Clinton"
"Well, that didn't take long. But "When Clinton lied, nobody died...unlike the Bush Crime Family, Inc. ..............

"For years you all have been asking Quote:"What did he know and when did he know it"
That started with the Criminal Enterprise known as the Nixon Administration. Turns out he knew everything, and he knew it from day one. And then we asked it about the Criminal Enterprise known as the Reagan Administration....he didn't know anything, ever, but his handlers/keepers did. Nah, Ronnie was in on it, too.

"So he declassified some information that IN NO WAY PUT OUR COUNTRY IN HARMS WAY"
He did declassify SOME, not all of a document. Whether that "declassification" is part of a coverup for criminal action (and the "declassification" may be shaky, too...as we have heard, there may be a process and rules for declassification which Bushbaby violated. Regardless, he participated in the outting of an undercover operative for the CIA and, more importantly, the destruction of a very valuable brass-plate cover...Brewster-Jennings, which gave us access to information regarding nuclear proliferation, particularly in the middle-east. Destroying that may very well end up getting us nuked.....AND I WOULD CALL THAT PUTTING US "IN HARMS WAY"

" Not like Clinton who under his admin gave China the keys to hard chip technologies and multiple war head capabilities. But that was then correct? That is a typical LIB response. NO OUTCRY ABOUT THAT.
Jeeezus....you obviously didn't read the multiple reponses this drivel got the LAST time you trotted out your little bullet point. Yes, here's my outcry...."THANK YOU BILL CLINTON FOR BEING SMARTER THAN YOUR CRITICS!!! Feeding selected information to KEEP OUR ENEMIES CLOSE is good statesmanship, good defense. Thanks, Bill...or an Thanks Ronnie RAYGUN for GIVING the Soviets our SOLID-ROCKET fuel technology, for the same reason.

"You are all nothing but a bunch of SOCIALIST who will spin this country in turmoil."
Yeah, yeah.....yawwwwwnnnn.... Prove it.

"Full medical benefits for everybody? ON WHO'S DIME, MINE?
Well, yeah, and mine too. Look Con-boy...YOU ALREADY PAY FOR IT....GET IT? PEOPLE WITH NO MEDICAL INSURANCE GO TO PUBLIC HOSPITALS' EMERGENCY ROOMS FOR TREATMENT, WHERE THE COSTS ARE MORE THAN DOUBLE, USUALLY TRIPLE WHAT A TRIP TO A DOCTOR COSTS A PERSON WITH A MEDICAL PLAN. A WELL-RUN GOVERNMENT MEDICAL PLAN IS....LISTEN TO THIS....CHEAPER THAN WHAT WE HAVE NOW, PRODUCES BETTER RESULTS, AND PROMOTES THE OVERALL HEALTH OF THE COMMUNITY. SO YEAH, YOUR DIME, AND MINE, AND EVERYBODY ELSE'S.

"I already pay too much and owed more for 05 tax season."
Ok, I'll ask this a THIRD time, you haven't answered the last two times, but libs tend to be optimists....HOW MUCH SHOULD YOU PAY? WHAT PERCENT OF YOUR INCOME SHOULD BE TAXED, and should it be a tax on all income, earned and unearned?

"Take more for [from?] me and you will have big problems"
Sounds like YOU will have the problems....I COLLECT those government checks, so I need you to pay more....inflation, you know.

... LOOK at NJ, a state I live in with a Governor that claimed he wouldn't raise taxes.... We laughed about that and bet some LIBs that that would happen.... Guess what it did and guess where his approval rating is... IN THE CRAPPER. Why because when he raised taxes people were surprised (Ignorant LIBs that seem to vote that way based on a 30 sec. sound bite on TV)and spoke up about it. It didn't take my party to try and vilify the guy. People just woke up and said he lied... Oh like that was any secret that taxes would go up"
Answer this....WHY did he raise taxes? What reality of governance did he encounter that would cause him to do something that hurt (and he KNEW would hurt) his political career? I suppose you know that the States, generally, aren't allowed to run deficits, like the Federal Government can, and does. If the state comes up against a significant shortfall, the taxes have to go up, or spending has to go down. The governor has limited influence on either, as these are handled by the State elected officials. But, once he made a promise like that, he set himself up.
And what's the point? That people don't like paying taxes? Duh. But they also don't like having sewer lines fail, potholes, bridges that crumble into the rivers, intermittent water service, garbage building up on the curb, rats running amok, etc. Ya pay for what ya get....but ya don't always get what ya pay for.

... "JOKE. WHY DOSEN'T YOUR PARTY RUN ON WHAT THEY REALY INTEND TO DO IF (A BIG WORD)THEY GET POWER BACK."
Hey Sparky, who do you think is going to pay the huge deficits (loans....with interest) that YOUR boy and the other Puds are running up? Get it through your head....this is TAX money they are spending and they are borrowing against future tax revenues....meaning you will get to pay those taxes after they have built up a bundle of interest....now, remember that I am profiting from this, as I have purchased some of the debt, so I am glad you will be sending me my money so that I can continue my comfortable life here in America's Pacific Paradise. So, thanks for supporting these Con idiots and making my life easier.

"It won't take a bunch of conservatives to turn the people against your party of big government higher taxes pushing for some sort of socialist utopia. "
Hey Sparky, the people have ALREADY turned against YOUR party of HUGE and INTRUSIVE Government and ENORMOUS Debt and PORK.....oh and Corruption...and war....and death....and all that crap. Take a look at the POLL NUMBERS!

"They will reject your party altogether."
As usual, Bass-ackwards....35% and DROPPING!

"YOU ARE ALL NOTHING BUT A BUNCH OF SOCIALIST."
...EHHHH, and what's yer point?

"Liberalism is trust of the people tempered by prudence. Conservatism is distrust of the people tempered by fear."
William Gladstone, 4-time Prime Minister of Great Britain.

One: I don't actually remember many of the details about the clinton administration, though from reading other's responses to you constant clinton references I gather that you are discussing some scandal that Clinton was never actually implicated in, and that you are drawing conclusions about his involvemnt with no evidence to support it. Yet, I must admit i can't really say from experience I am only a college freshman right now so you can understand how my memory of the 90's could be a little bit foggy, especially Clinton's first term.

Second, why do you think a democratic govenor would want to raise taxes now? Could it be that the cuts in federal spending and the cuts in federal taxes has shifted much of the burden from the federal level to the states? No, that be to logical, that couldn't happen right? Wrong! What good Bush's tax cuts do you if it forces states to raise taxes in order to take up the federal governments slack.

Finally, you are right that lying can really tank you approval ratings, ever wonder why Bush's ratings are in the 30's consistantly? Could it be that he has no credibillity because he has been caught lying to many times? Lets see if that can sink in, though I have a feeling not even one of Bush's nuclear bunker busters could crack your thick skull.

"It was believed afterwards that the man was a lunatic, because there was no sense in what he said." "The War Prayer" by Mark Twain

JPN,
Bush's policies and actions not putting our country "in harms way"? Please...acting as the poster boy for al Qaeda recruitment by torture and mistreatment of "detainees" (the MAJORITY of whom were/are innocent, BTW).."burning" an intelligence source by revealing we had an al Qaeda operative in custody with his laptop ( a source of, at the time, current intelligence info) for his own political advantage...revealing the identity of a COVERT (yes, she WAS covert)CIA operative for political gain and revenge (see a pattern, JPN?)...NOT listening to military leaders in conducting a war taht shouldn't have been launched in the first place...launching a first strike against a country who posed no imminent threat (this justifies a first strike by ANY country against ANY other country, JPN)...alienating other countries rather than building alliances through his dishonesty and recklessness -ALL of these things endanger America, JPN.
JPN, when you find an intelligent thought, be sure to let us all know -I'm sure we'd all like to pat you on the head in unexpected awe and admiration...

Rick

All this talk about lying and deceiving, it sounds to me like your talking about Clinton.............. For years you all have been asking Quote:"What did he know and when did he know it" So he declassified some information that IN NO WAY PUT OUR COUNTRY IN HARMS WAY" Not like Clinton who under his admin gave China the keys to hard chip technologies and multiple war head capabilities. But that was then correct? That is a typical LIB response. NO OUTCRY ABOUT THAT. You are all nothing but a bunch of SOCIALIST who will spin this country in turmoil. Full medical benefits for everybody? ON WHO'S DIME, MINE? I already pay too much and owed more for 05 tax season. Take more for me and you will have big problems... LOOK at NJ, a state I live in with a Governor that claimed he wouldn't raise taxes.... We laughed about that and bet some LIBs that that would happen.... Guess what it did and guess where his approval rating is... IN THE CRAPPER. Why because when he raised taxes people were surprised (Ignorant LIBs that seem to vote that way based on a 30 sec. sound bite on TV)and spoke up about it. It didn't take my party to try and vilify the guy. People just woke up and said he lied... Oh like that was any secret that taxes would go up... JOKE. WHY DOSEN'T YOUR PARTY RUN ON WHAT THEY REALY INTEND TO DO IF (A BIG WORD)THEY GET POWER BACK. It won't take a bunch of conservatives to turn the people against your party of big government higher taxes pushing for some sort of socialist utopia. They will reject your party altogether. YOU ARE ALL NOTHING BUT A BUNCH OF SOCIALIST.
Submitted by JPN on April 11, 2006 - 12:19pm

Did you think of that comeback all by yourself???
So, anyways, when is the last time a Democrat leaked (false) info to get us into an illegal war? And even if it ever happened, it wouldn't make what Bush did right. Can you follow that simple logic JPN?????